Anyone can argue over religion, no matter which religion it may be, and quote at will whatever they feel supports their viewpoint. Which means, conversely, that anyone can argue back and use the same texts. The secret, for both sides, is to be selective and hope – or pray – that the other side doesn’t have the same – theoretical – knowledge as you do. What you cannot argue over, or discuss, is faith and truth. Truth is absolute and cannot be discussed since it is absolute and faith, well, faith is a very personal matter.
But if you wish to discuss religion with me, as J.D. tried, sort of, then I am like the cat on top: quiet, collected and with all the necessary information right at my fingertips. And you, the cat underneath, will poke and stab and try your best, I am sure, but eventually you will fall under the weight of your own arguments, of your own texts and quotations.
The Bible, and the Qu’ran, are collections of thoughts from many, many people. They contradict one another constantly and, as such, can be used to justify both sides of an argument. Effectively no one can win, simply because of those contradictions, but one thing is clear: the Bible and Qu’ran prove nothing but the thoughts of men long since gone. They can be used as an indication of what might be right, the path that a person could follow, a guiding light for their lives but, as with all things, with care.
Feel free to be selective and spout as much as you will, J.D. and friends, but expect your own words to be turned against you and expect me, and many others, to demand the same justification for your standpoint as you demand of us.
I have nothing against faith, nothing against those who wish to believe in a god or follow the contradictory teachings of men, but religion, for me, is a no go area. I do not like religion as it is far to tight and restraining; it cuts off that famous Free Will man is meant to have received from a god as the banishment from the Garden of Eden occurred and that, to my way of thinking, goes against the teachings religionists claim to follow so devoutly.
Love & Kisses, Viki.